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Post by lucidity on Oct 23, 2005 21:02:08 GMT
Most of my fan fic friends do what you said, Linda. They answer burning questions and then just do a blanket thanks.
The whole thing probably arose from someone who did have Review Responses that were longer than the chapters, and yes, I've seen that. I know there were some wildly popular HP fics that had that issue and it took forever for the page to load, if you had a slow computer like mine!
I doubt there would be much of an issue unless you get on someone's bad side and they decide to lodge a complaint.
I'll really need to look at posting elsewhere in addition to FF.net.
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Post by lindahoyland on Oct 23, 2005 22:47:31 GMT
You could post your story on Open Scrolls at once but yu have to apply to Council of Elrond and SOA.
I think it's sad that people take revenge by reporting rule infringements. I've had times I've had issues with people and seen them breaking rules but why have a story removed that gives lots of people pleasure and get involved in a feud ? It would just be stupid and acting like a child in playground brawl !
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Post by eggowaffles on Oct 24, 2005 2:18:55 GMT
I had one short fic deleted from ff.net a while ago, and I'd definitely love to know who reported me. I mean, are there just random people who comb archives and go "Ha! There's a story I can get removed!" ?
Btw, if you're looking for more LotR archives, Henneth Annûn is a good one, too.
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Post by lindahoyland on Oct 24, 2005 2:43:16 GMT
Was that one with script in it Eggos?I'm sorry to hear that.Maybe the admin staff sometimes trawl through,either that or some stupid nasty person is jealous of your talent.Not that I'd think you would have any enemies.
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Post by Raksha on Oct 24, 2005 6:29:03 GMT
I had one short fic deleted from ff.net a while ago, and I'd definitely love to know who reported me. I mean, are there just random people who comb archives and go " Ha! There's a story I can get removed!" ? Btw, if you're looking for more LotR archives, Henneth Annûn is a good one, too. Some folks really need to get a life, if they get outraged enough about someone else's story to report it, when it didn't hurt anyone. It's one thing for the site's moderators to enforce the rules - and they should have given you the chance to remove what it was that bothered them - but for other readers to snitch on people is tacky.
I don't like reporting anyone for anything in RL; and wouldn't do so unless I felt someone was a danger to me or others, or making my life miserable in other respects - and that's a far cry from breaking some arcane rule in story format at a fanfiction site. (I once threatened the owners of a toy poodle who bit me to "go to the authorities" - I didn't want to do so, and only made the threat because they were taking too long to give me the name of their dog's vet so I could double-check that the critter had its rabies shot - thankfully, they gave me the vet's name and all was well, and I never reported them - the bite wasn't exactly serious, just a break of skin, but I needed to know that the dog had its rabies shot)
RAKSHA
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Post by lucidity on Oct 24, 2005 15:03:57 GMT
I have known people who were targeted before. I have also seen reviews where the reviewer is just ranting about the author of that fic giving her a bad review and then just trashing the fic without even reading it.
I had another friend who had her ability to post suspended for a week (due to a complaint) and then she also had to remove all the song lyrics from her fics.
Sadly, I think many of these random idiots give the site a bad name. I think they are quite immature. I would say they are just kids, but I have no idea if that is true or not. But even if they are kids it's no excuse for such behavior.
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Post by eggowaffles on Oct 24, 2005 18:35:16 GMT
Was that one with script in it Eggos?I'm sorry to hear that.Maybe the admin staff sometimes trawl through,either that or some stupid nasty person is jealous of your talent.Not that I'd think you would have any enemies. Yes, it was. It wasn't so much the fic—it was a kind of pointless 900-word affair, so I wasn't too crushed— but then I got a nasty e-mail from ff.net saying that my uploading privileges were suspended, and that if I broke any more site rules they'd delete my account. Irritating, really. I was half-expecting them to threaten to confiscate my dog and assassinate choice members of my family as well.
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Post by lindahoyland on Oct 24, 2005 20:41:07 GMT
Fanfiction.net makes it far too easy to report someone,as easy as adding a story to a favourites list,instead of having to e mail the site and give your details.This makes it far too simple if you are feeling angry with someone and see they've broken the rules,to report them.Not that I ever have done, I hasten to say.
I think ff.net should tell you before taking down a story and give you time to put it right and not send nasty messages,which is quite out of order.
I did know of a case of someone copying someone else's story word for word but it took quite a while before action was taken despite a flood of complaints,which suggests they even pick and choose which complaints to act one and maybe even revel in the publicity a notorious infringement of the rules brings? Who knows ?If there were anywhere else with so much feedback, I'd move to it as that site is full of trash and very impersonal.
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Post by lindahoyland on Nov 4, 2005 23:09:33 GMT
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Post by lucidity on Nov 5, 2005 1:35:58 GMT
I have had that happen to me as well. People will read, certainly, but reviews may be less than before, since people generally will not come back to review later on.
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Post by eggowaffles on Nov 7, 2005 3:06:33 GMT
Yeesh, I hate it when ff.net does stuff like that! You know, I really wish that someone would set up a Tolkien-specific archive on the same scale as ff.net; more accessible than some of the smaller archives (like HASA), but more efficiently managed than ff.net. Or does this archive already exist and no one's told me about it yet?
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Post by lindahoyland on Nov 7, 2005 4:48:21 GMT
I think SOA is probably the next largest collection of Tolkien fanfic but they have fairly strict rules about what you can post.My "Hidden Days of Healing" was rejected as was my original version of "Facing the Darkness".It is pretty reliable though.
I'm getting reviews and alerts again but hits are not showing.Grr, I love watching the hit counter when I post new chapters !
I was wondering how many countries my readers come from. I know I have them from the UK,USA,Germany,Finland, Hungary,India,China(and Hong Kong),Sweden,Denmark,Guyana, France,The Czech Republic.Poland,the Ukraine and Australia !I wonder if any more nationalities read,it is such a thrill to know people from so many countries are interested and manage to understand what I'm saying !
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Post by lucidity on Nov 7, 2005 17:26:52 GMT
As frustrating as FF.net can be, I think it still reaches more folks than the other sites. You needn't be a member to see stories or review and, although this is good and bad, anyone can post their story.
Some of the other sites restrict content (generally slash) or specialize in certain characters or slash. FF.net will allow anything except graphic depictions, aka NC-17-type material. I think that openness encourages more people to give it a try.
I have noticed that people tend to group themselves with their favorite character in a Yahoo group, like lovers of Eomer and Eowyn have the Riddermark, etc. I like a lot of different characters and not all of them in the same race. In the bigger sites you can read all sorts of things and not just about one character. I actually enjoy reading about characters that I hadn't given much thought to.
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Post by lindahoyland on Nov 7, 2005 22:00:43 GMT
I posted my first LOTR stories on ff.net because there was no restriction and there I met people who helped me improve sufficiently to get on SOA,so you have a good point. I just wish they were a little more friendly to their users and offered more leeway and gave people a chance to put things right before deleting stories. I have an enhanced account there and still am not getting any user stats ! SOA is nice as they make it easy to reply to reviewers. I'm also in a yahoo Group for Aragorn fans. ;D
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Post by eggowaffles on Nov 7, 2005 22:19:53 GMT
Ff.net is an invaluable site in the sense that it reaches a much wider pool of readers than do most other fanfic sites. I post all my fics on ff.net first and then use the responses I receive to gauge how much editing I'll need to do before I try submitting it anywhere more exclusive. I just dislike the impersonal and often ineffective management. I can't get in at SoA, though... all of my parodies fall foul of their criteria. In fact, the only thing I've written that would be remotely eligible is that horrible Ghost!Boromir fluff I wrote two months ago, and I have absolutely no desire to publish that. Hope your hit counter gets fixed! I know, I love to watch mine, too... it reassures me that people are still reading even when I'm not getting as many reviews as I'd like
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Post by shieldmaiden on Nov 8, 2005 2:49:41 GMT
I've never had any problems with getting my stuff accepted at SoA, though I never did even try to put a parody up. (which reminds me, I need to update my fics there. ) I guess someday I'll work up the courage to try HASA again, but for now ff.net just seems to be the easiest option. Despite all their pain-in-the-neck rules.
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Post by lindahoyland on Nov 8, 2005 4:19:34 GMT
Are other people's hit counters working at ff.net ?The stats page looks very odd with 25 reviews and no hits !I admit when I post I love watching the hits go up and wondering who is reading. SOA is a rather prim Tolkien site. I failed to get in to begin with as Hidden Days of Healing was too AU and "Facing the Darkness" had Faramir beaten by Denethor.
I too, try out at ff.net and then polish the story for SOA.
I thought "Ghost" was rather nice.
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Post by eggowaffles on Nov 8, 2005 16:26:41 GMT
I guess someday I'll work up the courage to try HASA again, but for now ff.net just seems to be the easiest option. Despite all their pain-in-the-neck rules. You write just as well (and in many cases better) as anyone I've read at HASA! When was the last time you tried submitting to them? Are other people's hit counters working at ff.net ?The stats page looks very odd with 25 reviews and no hits !I admit when I post I love watching the hits go up and wondering who is reading. My hit counter reset itself. I'm so depressed... all my pretty numbers are gone! (*weeps softly*) That's nice of you to say. But it really goes against my moral scruples to write something so... so cute.
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Post by lindahoyland on Nov 8, 2005 21:26:56 GMT
I think it is often we middle aged ladies who are drawn towards the cute, Eggos. ;D I still have my old stats but no new ones are showing,so it seems I've 29 reviews and no readers LOL !
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Post by lindahoyland on Nov 9, 2005 6:30:16 GMT
The hits are finally back on ff.net !I've enjoyed watching my new chapter reach 83.
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